In Marvel movies villains are villains from start, we never see their origin story and usually battle happens at very end of movie. Most of the time villain wants to destroy the world because he wants to be bad guy.
I really hope Marvel is not doing that no more.
I mean look at Spider-Man 1. We see good Norman Osborn turning into villain because of accident. We see Doc Ock good guy turning into villain because of accident but in the end he turns good. I love how in both movies villain is not even main part of story. It’s more like about Parker, his life and just some small problem with villain.
For example in Spider-Man 2 Doc Ock was not even main part of story. Spider-Man had his story and Doc Ock was trying to do his own thing. Bank fight scene happened not because Doc Ock wants to destroy the world but because he tried to steal money and Parker was there. And then end of movie we see main problem but it’s solved by Doc Ock himself by killing himself and doing something good.
Spider-Man 2 is still best Spider-Man movie ever. I hope they not doing story like in Thor 2 how villain is connected with Thor girlfriend and villain wants to end of the world. Or like in Avengers 2 villain created by Tony Stark, villain creates new hero and they beat villain. In both movies story was about stopping villain a whole movie. Same goes with Iron Man 3. Captain America Winter Solider.
Please don’t make villain main part of story
From the teaser they showed, and everything they’ve said thus far, we can assume it will mainly be about Parker’s high school experience. The Vulture will be there to show Peter what he is getting into by being a superhero and the dangers of balancing it with his high school life.
But i really hope we gonna see good guy turning into villain because of bad luck/choice, not like in other Marvel movies where we already have villains with superpowers and they all wanna destroy the world without any good reason.
I’m sure that will be he case as well here. Usually, Adrian Toomes is just trying to get revenge on Norman Osborne for stealing his flight suit. Since Norman might not appear, they’ll probably change the story a bit.
I don’t quite get what you are saying. You don’t want the villain to be the main part of the story, but you do want a villain’s origin story?
Though it had faults, Amazing Spider-Man 2 did a pretty good job establishing Max Dillon’s character, gave a gradual build-up to his acquiring powers, and gave a credible reason for his villainous actions as Electro.
I think most, if not all, of Marvel’s films have primarily focused on the human elements of the hero’s life, with a villain lurking around the edges to propel the action. But again, you seem a little contradictory, so I’m not clear on what you are hoping to see.
For what it’s worth, I think the Winter Soldier is the best of all the Marvel Films, both MCU and non-canon, or whatever one calls the Sony, Universal, etc. installments. Spider-Man 2 was good, but corny and clunky in places, and too “Hollywood” for my taste. The Homecoming film appears like it will be a much more faithful rendition of the comic book.
Yeah Electro apparently was a fan of Spider-Man. But after his accident and walking on Time Square screens he sees himself, but he suddenly hates Spider-Man and turns bad because the screens turned then to Spider-Man. Totally reasonable motivation.
I guess you diden’t watch TASM 2 after all. He did not turned to Spider-Man. Spider-Man lied to him, attacked Electro first including sniper and people who hated electro.
Electro was self defending himself until sniper shot electro, then electro shot back and then spider-man attacked electro and electro got angry and attacked back. Also scene we did nto see but were in movie is where electro mom also dies.
You telling me that when you get bullied in school and then other guy attacks you then you don’t hate or self defend yourself?
Many of you will recognize this as Maslow’s heirarchy of human needs. The way this works is that, in order to feel fulfillment, or self-actualization, all of your other basic needs must be met, and before any of those is met, the one before it must be met.
So let’s break Electro down here.
His physiological needs are taken care of, as throughout his life, we can assume he’s had food and water, you know, because he’s alive.
Safety: He has a house, so that covers shelter, and he has a job, so he has some stable income. For the most part, his life is pretty safe until his accident, where he loses all sense of security and fears for his life as he’s shot at.
Belonging: This is the main point I’ve been addressing. We never see Electro/Max as having any sort of family to speak of. Clearly, his only friend his Spider-Man after one encounter. The man is a shut-in. And as for community, NO ONE ACKNOWLEDGES HIM. There is no belonging in his life.
Self-Esteem: Recognition is actually part of this one. People need to be recognized, they need to know that they are loved and needed. And when he is transformed, he loses any trace of that feeling that he ever had completely. And as for achievement and mastery, we see very early on that he has some designs for a new power grid that he’s proud of. But, as I said before, those are stolen by his bosses. Add all of that to being called a monster and shot at and you can say goodbye to any sense of self-esteem.
As you can see, not only is Electro a far stretch from being self-actualized, he’s a royal mess. He has no self-esteem, no sense of belonging, and any sense of security and worth that he once had disappears when he’s seen as a villain in the eyes of everyone he knows, including his hero.
He wants to be noticed.
Electro’s needs aren’t being met. He’s scared. He’s hopeless. He’s been pushed around all his life and he is finished with it. Plus being mentally unstable, it’s enough to push him over the edge. His rampage and multiple counts of murder aren’t justified, but they’re understandable. The world, his bosses, Spider-Man, they all helped to take away his life. So he feels that the only adequate response is to take theirs.